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BlueEagle
I believe that advice for when to accept an offer during the Top Dollar bonus game has been discussed a few times. However, the only relevant discussion I could find is in a thread for another game.
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/video-poker/21294-extreme-x-poker/#post439574

Top Dollar is a strange one, does the game tell you whether keeping the win is Optimal or whether one should try again? I understand how the game works, but I've never played it. Does the game give the probabilities of hitting certain results?


I finally remembered last night to take a photo of the strategy guide. The strategy for accepting the offer is based on the offer amount. The 'best play says' that will be displayed after about 20 seconds is based on the strategy and is not a definite indication that the next offer will be higher or lower.
'Although individual results are random, the best overall strategy is to select [Take Offer]
If the 1st offer is at least 50
If the 2nd offer is at least 45
Or if the 3rd offer is at least 35'
(This photo of the game info screen is from the Top Dollar machine in the high limit room at Aliante.)
tringlomane
Note this is 'Double Top Dollar'. Original top dollar may be different. But if it is, I doubt it is by much.
BlueEagle
In the Wizard of Vegas game guide for slots under Advice:

In Top Dollar, if you watch the little screen, it will eventually give you advice, after about 20 seconds. It shows it quickly, so pay attention. You should follow this advice.

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The key point that I want to make for this thread is that the 'Best play says' advice of 'Try Again' or 'Take Offer' is based solely on the strategy that can be found in one of the Info/Help screens. The advice of 'Try Again' does not guarantee that the next offer will be higher.
Mobcasinos
If it was me I would rather choose the Take offer. Choosing try again does not guarantee you anything. It is more risky than just taking the offer.
Mission146

If it was me I would rather choose the Take offer. Choosing try again does not guarantee you anything. It is more risky than just taking the offer.


By that same standard, tossing a Jack of Spades that would otherwise start you with a pair of Jacks is more risky than holding the JQKA of Diamonds that you were dealt with it, which would you rather do?
Vultures can't be choosers.
AxelWolf

In the Wizard of Vegas game guide for slots under Advice:
The key point that I want to make for this thread is that the 'Best play says' advice of 'Try Again' or 'Take Offer' is based solely on the strategy that can be found in one of the Info/Help screens. The advice of 'Try Again' does not guarantee that the next offer will be higher.

On some machines this advice thing was hard to noticed. IIRC it slowly scrolls across the digital screen in green letters. I didn't really notice it at first, it's not like I had that many good opportunities to play it. I was just winging it on the last offer depending on how much it was.
I do believe MaxPen pointed it out to me, he also has some experience with TD. You can grab his attention, he's probably over gloating in the election thread.
On the rare occasions I have a good reason to play TD I now do what it says to do(I think The Wizard would agree) in the long run it should work out better for you. I had better results taking its advice. Legally I don't think they can offer long term bad advice. I wouldn't treat it any different than a table game or VP strategy. It may not work out each time, however in the long run it's the best way.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
tringlomane

Legally I don't think they can offer long term bad advice.


Probably not. And in New Jersey at least, they must offer the correct advice, or the game wouldn't be legal.
IcarianX
I play 3 Credit - $25 Dollar Top Dollar Deluxe at a 'Boutique' Casino in Eastern Pennsylvania. Its slowly becoming the game I transition more to, from $100 WOF.
I come up with this conundrum when playing, because I've had this happen multiple times
Offer 1 - 35 Credits (Pass No thanks) $875
Offer 2 - 100-10-5-X2-X2 = 460 Credits $11,500
I almost wish they would show you the offers you missed. Theres a part of me that wants to push it and go to the next offer, but in the 3 times its happened, I've taken the offer everytime. its a 25$ game, I couldn't imagine its average multiple payout much higher than that.
Honestly it has paid out more than the 2 Credit - 100$ Top Dollar games I've played at the Seminole Casinos in Florida (avoid them like the plague)
Nathan
A good rule of thumb is to not be greedy. I have read that a guy had a good offer on just $1(100) and decided he wanted the $1000 prize and held out for it. He ended up with $15 and was mad. Don't be greedy.
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Boz

I play 3 Credit - $25 Dollar Top Dollar Deluxe at a 'Boutique' Casino in Eastern Pennsylvania. Its slowly becoming the game I transition more to, from $100 WOF.
I come up with this conundrum when playing, because I've had this happen multiple times
Offer 1 - 35 Credits (Pass No thanks) $875
Offer 2 - 100-10-5-X2-X2 = 460 Credits $11,500
I almost wish they would show you the offers you missed. Theres a part of me that wants to push it and go to the next offer, but in the 3 times its happened, I've taken the offer everytime. its a 25$ game, I couldn't imagine its average multiple payout much higher than that.
Honestly it has paid out more than the 2 Credit - 100$ Top Dollar games I've played at the Seminole Casinos in Florida (avoid them like the plague)


With that level of play, you would be a king in Vegas. Not sure what VF can be giving you of value in comps.
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One electronic game that has been consistently rising in popularity is the Top Dollar slot machine. It is one of the most exciting slot machines with a bonus game, featuring a bonus round that lets the player accept or decline several offers to determine their win. The winning symbols in the Top Dollar bonus game range from 5 to 1000 credits and can include 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 or 1,000 credits. There are also “multiplier” machines that offer up to two 2x multipliers. This means that the top prize is generally 4,000 credits (1,000 x 2 x 2), 1,000 credits, $5,000 or $1,000 depending on the machine variety.

Due to their popularity in many casinos across the United States, Top Dollar slot machines are now available in several different denominations ranging from $0.01 to $1,000. Generally, the lower denomination games are available in 5-reel machines, while the higher denomination machines are available in 3-reel.

It is important to keep in mind that most machines require a 2-credit or 3-credit bet to enable the bonus feature. This means it is usually better to bet the max for that machine to ensure you are qualified for the bonus. If you are looking for the $1,000 top dollar machine, there is only one place you’ll find it, and that is at the Wynn Las Vegas in the high limit slots room.

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One of the most exciting features of Top Dollar is of course the bonus game. To get the bonus, the player just needs to get either a Top Dollar symbol on the last payline or between three and five consecutive Top Dollar symbols (depending on the machine). Once this happens, you will get one bonus game which gives you four different offers. After the first offer is presented, you have the option to either take the offer, or decline it for a new offer. This process is then repeated for each of the next offers.

Though the results are still randomized, you do have somewhat of a say in the outcome because you are able to decline/accept offers. This adds a level of excitement not present in many other slot machine games. This is a big reason why the Top Dollar machine has become a staple of most casinos in both Las Vegas and many other parts of the country.

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Top Dollar Machine Variations

As we briefly touched on above, there are a few different variations of Top Dollar. The first and most popular type is the variation which requires that the player gets a Top Dollar symbol on the last payline, which starts the bonus. This game has a total of 3 reels and generally require that you are betting two credits, so it is important to check this before playing.

Check out this video demonstration of the Top Dollar bonus game:

The second top dollar variation also has 3-reels and requires a two credit bet, but you must get the Top Dollar symbols on all three paylines to start the bonus.

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The third top dollar variation has 5 reels, and usually requires at least a two credit bet, though this will vary based on the machine and denomination you are playing.

Bonus Win Denominations

No matter which type of Top Dollar machine you are playing, wins in the bonus games are calculated in either dollar values or in credits. The machine will clearly state this information in the bonus area, and the dollar amounts are usually equal to one another (i.e. the max win on a credit-based machine will be equal to that of a dollar value machine).

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